La Vuelta 2022 route review

After Giro and Tour it’s time to review the third and the final Grand Tour of the season. As usual, all the stages were inserted on LFR website in the Vuelta a Espana calendar and you are free to check the route for yourself. Said so, let’s go analyzing in deep the route.

Overview

Vuelta follow the classic scheme of the past years: an opening Team Time Trial and a 30 km ITT somewhere in the second week. Seven mountain stages, five middle mountain stages with 8 mountain top finishes. There are no stages longer than 200 kms but there are even no juniores stages of 120-130 kms like in TDF 2021, for example. Have read too many criticism for the route, to be honest, but this is a classic Vuelta route – a normal route with nothing special but not worthy of excessive criticism.

Sure, there are maybe 2 stages for long range attacks, that are Pornal and Navacerrada, but Vuelta, more than the other Grand Tours, has been a Grand Tour in which you can literally tune up, watch the last 30′ and you’ll lose nothing relevant. What we saw last year was the anomaly – and was mainly because Vuelta was not directly followed by the worlds as it will be in 2021 with UCI going back in a more traditional calendar.

This will have as usual a direct impact in the route with the 2nd week being more heavier than the third one even if fortunately won’t be like 2020 (in which Vuelta was in november, but was designed for the original calendar and third week was basically terrible for GC gaps). There are are so at least 13 stages in which we can have some GC gaps on a total of 21 – this is the core of the Vuelta: small gaps on several stages, it always has been. Roglic and Pogacar are expected to be here with Evenepoel, Bernal can even make an appearance after TDF to complete his triple crown – so unlike Giro this year Vuelta will be significantly packed and the right way to get this startlist is to have a demanding route but not as hard as Giro and the Tour ones.

So, it’s an exceptional route? Definitely not. It’s a bad route? Only if this it was a Giro or a Tour de France. The error of these two is trying to make more like this their routes instead of keeping their traditional views: Giro is the true cycling race, the most demanding, that only a true rider can win and TDF the big kermesse with top world athletes with a less demanding route over 21 days but two big GC days.

Grand Depart

Vuelta 2022 opens in Netherlands with a 23,3 km TTT that will surely set some important gaps between the GC riders. For the rest this is a pretty standard Grand Depart with two flat stages and almost no big difficulties. The race isn’t even passing in the most windy zones of the country, so while wind can still be a thing – don’t expect it as a main difficulty of the first three stages – if there will be some wind probably more of Breda stage than Utrecht one but nothing like TDF 2015. Expect a double sprint and rather than crashes there arent’t any further difficulties

First week

2 / 6

The second week starts with two hilly stages in basque country in which the Bilbao one has surely some GC potential and would’ve been a great stage if placed as Stage 20 like last year. Pico Jano will be the first MTF of the race after Collada de Brenes. Pico Jano is a steep climb in first part while the second is still good but less steeper – ideal climb for attacking in the first part and expanding the gap in the second.

Cistierna stage is the first stage that has written “breakaway” all over it with the San Glorio climb in the middle of the stage – the climb is too hard to keep resistent riders and domestiques to close the brekaway and this isn’t even TDF in which you have your better teammates as domestiques.

Collau Fancuaya stage is one of the stages I personally marked with a red circle: the stage has an uphill start and it usually brings chaos. The rest is all up and down making it difficult to follow and close attacks and being not too long this can add some suprises on the route. The final climb is a classic Vuelta MTF ending with the steep final ramp that at the moment is also on unpaved road.

Week will close on Les Praeres that hosts again a finish after 2018 when Simon Yates won it in front of Lopez and Valverde. Climb is short and steep – don’t expect big gaps here but surely a GC battle for the stage is the bigger option on the table.

Second week

3 / 6

Second week of la Vuelta opens with the classic 30 km mid-race Vuelta ITT – honestly good having it setting up here before the mountains so it will give a good incentive to attack to whoever will lose a big amount of time. Flat stage for sprinters and then it will be Penas Blancas MTF day. Climb is 20 km @ 6.8%, imagine it more like a regular classic TDF climb and it’s back in the route after Stage 8 of 2013 – in that day there was a big group after 2 km banner (despite Radioshack paced for Hoerner) when Konig did the winning move attacking with a group with Basso, Pinot, Moreno and Roche. Following what happened on that day would say to not expect big gaps here.

After another sprint in Montilla will so be time for Sierra de la Pandera. Climb has been faced in 2017 with Majka winning from the breakaway and almost no gaps in GC favourites – it’s a short climb but with steepneess over 13% in the middle part for 2 km. In 2009 Cunego won the stage here from the breakaway while in the GC Samuel Sanchez gave 20” to Valverde-Gesink and 40” to Ivan Basso. In 2006 instead Vinokorouv soloed it winning by 53” on Valverde and making it a cornerstone of his final 1’13” win in Madrid, but was another era being pre bio-passport.

Sierra Nevada will close the week with the climb being taken from a new side. This year, starting from north side, the climb will feature an hard part with slopes over 10% for the first five kms, then going for a regular 7-8-9%. Climb it’s 20 km at 7.9% avg and this makes it different than Penas Blancas being more hard. Alto del Purche before the climbs makes this stage definitely the one that can mark the GC if it will be raced aggressively.

Third week

4 / 6

As anticipated in the overwiew, third week is easier than the second one due mainly to the fact that it will lead to the World Championships. Sprint in Tomares opens it, followed by a punchy finish in Monastero de Tentudia that will surely gave some gaps but not big ones. Alto de Piornal stage will be the last MTF of the race and it’s the only other stage that featured a possible penultimate climb for long-rangfe attacks.

Piornal is a new MTF for the Vuelta and unfortunately it’s not the hardest one being 5.6% avg. Being in the third week will surely help it to get some GC gaps in there, otherwise it’s a stage that a good team can control with the classic train technique from old Sky school.

Talavera de la Reina stage it’s honestly a stage that has 0 sense as stage 19. It clearly invites the peloton in taking a rest day and the breakaway to play for the stage. Puerto del Pielago is too soft to make any significant differences – seems the classic Vuelta Magnus Cort stage if taken softly. The only rider who can literally make the race explode here is honestly Remco Evenepoel taking advantage of his superior skills on the flat in comparison to the rest of contenders over a small group.

Stage 20 of the Vuelta is basically the usual Madrid climbs stages and it copies the famous stage of 2015 ending in Cercedilla when Aru dropped Dumoulin winning the race. A similar stage was also done in 2018 with Higuita winning in Becerril de la Sierra with 15” over rest of GC peloton. In both the occasions this stage was in third week and a small group of 4-5 riders makes the top of Puerto de Cotos.

Stage like that seems a waste of opportunity because it can make difference only if one rider gets a bad day and only if it’s raced top aggressive like Vuelta 2021 stage 20 – and it needs to be raced like that since Navafria. Would’ve expected here a trip on Bola del Mundo but organziers decided to stop at the top of Navacerrada. Will see if the experiment will pay – in 2015 it did, in 2018 it did not.

Vuelta will then concludes with the traditional Madrid circuit after the trip to Santiago de Compostela of last year. Nothing to be expected unless you are a big fan of the traditional parades and processions before entering the circuit that should not belong to the sport.

Overview

Vuelta 2022 presented a classic traditional route with surprisingly limiting the steep climbs. We can expect a traditional MTF battle with small gaps and GC changing every day even if with this route who has time to recover should invent more than that to turn out his GC situation.

If Roglic will be there to defend his title like in last two years, he’ll be again the big favourite, even with Pogacar in. TTT is a big advantage for Jumbo-Visma and it’s good we finally have TTTs back in the world of cycling and in a Grand Tour after they were shamefully removed from the World Championships denying the fans to see a top level race of this discipline every year.

I would say in the end that I am curious a lot to see how Remco Evenepoel will perform on this route that in his simplicity allows some tricky attacks even in long flat sections with reduced peloton that suits his strong points a lot. The route is still not as good as TDF that is indeed the best grand tour route of 2022 but, as stated before, this is Vuelta – the third grand tour. Almost no rider will target it as first season objective – is not even close to Giro for the importance of winning it, but has big names at the start and it’s fun to see.

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Ten worthy climbs Tour de France should visit

While in the last post we revisited ten climbs Tour de France did, it’s now time to check ten climbs that Tour de France never did and we would like to see in the route. Have a look at them and tell us what do you think.

1. Val Pelouse

Need a steep mtf in the Alps? Val Pelouse can provide you what you need. The climb is near La Rochette and can be easily paired with climbs like Grand Coucheron before it. Don’t have a full video of the climb but the surface can be seen in the one posted and it’s doable in a race with the usual resurface. Having a finish on the top can bring a steep finish that Tour de France usually misses

2. Lac d’Aumar

Pyrenees doesn’t usually have long climbs – so why not adding one? Lac d’Aumar starts from Saint-Lary-Soulan when people discovered Portet thanks to the Tour de France. This climb is not as steep as Portet but can be good as a stage finish being long and with an hard middle part forcing riders to attack before the last ramp. Finish would also deliver to the TV a beautiful sightseeing of the lakes near the Pic de Neouvielle

3. Col de l’Arpettaz

An interesting climb on the Alps, starting from Ugine. Probably not suitable for a MTF but it has also a descent and it’s another hard climb on the Alps never done by the Tour, potentially pairing it with Mont Bisanne. Road surface seems good and with a bit of usual pre-tdf work can be done in a race.

4. Col de Moissiere

Tour de France usually ends a lot in Gap but Col de Manse delivering usually boring breakaways and no GC gaps. Trying to make a different route like inserting the Moissiere before the finish. The climb is a bit longer and steeper than the Manse, delivering some potential GC action

5. Col de Parpaillon

If Tour de France did the Col de la Loze, why not bringing the race to another iconic climbs in the Alps? Parpaillon isn’t ideally suitable for a road race at the moment, but with the refurbishing road works done in Col de la Loze (and Portet) this climb can be featured in the Grand Boucle. As a big plus, this climb can be paired with Izoard or Bonette-Restefond depending the side you pick. The only problem can be the tunnel at the top in which a race like TDF can struggle to pass.

6. Puigmal

You don’t usually find good finishes in the French zone around Pyrenees 2000. One of them is the ski station of Puigmal that recently reopened featuring a 14 km climb with final part around 7-8%. It would be a normal climb in another zone – but in this one can bring a new MTF in a zone that is usually bad for the stages.

7. Station des Karellis (Col d’Albane)

Is Tour de France lacking hard MTF? This ski station in Savoie would perform an interesting finish that can follow immediately Galibier or Croix-de-Fer never going under 6% average. This makes it an ideal finish for a “normal” stage that anyway never happened in the Grand Boucle.

8. Montee de Villard-notre-Dame (Col du Solude)

This climb starts from le Bourg d’Oisans and it’s enough to classify it as interesting. It’s in front of the Alpe d’Huez on a small panoramic road that makes it wonderful. It’s currently not doable in road cycling because the descent is on a small, gravel road that makes it not possible to pass with the caravan. There were rumors of surfacing work and doing that part makes this climb indeed doable in the Grand Boucle – of course followed by Alpe d’Huez for a memorable finish.

9. Pic de Beillurti

The climb is in a zone that Tour de France sistematically forgot exists, near the Basque Country Pyrenees. Road surface is narrow but generally good and not different than the Horquette d’Ancizan making the climb suitable for a race. It will bring Tour de France a steep climb giro-vuelta like that is actually missing in the race.

10. Col du Jandri

Imagine having Zoncolan and Finestre together, starting from a normal climb. This is the Col du Jandri, the end of the climb of Les Deux-Alpes. The climb is paved in first Kms, then after Km 12 is suddenly gravel on a public road. It will probably need some road work to make it a racing sterrato like Finestre but the result would be delivering in the Tour de France the hardest climb ever doable in a road race and an historical day in cycling history.

Ten worthy climbs the Tour de France forgot

In today’s post we are going to revisit some climbs that were actually part of Tour de France routes but are not anymore in the route in the last years. I’ll hope you enjoy the post featuring profiles and stage videos and will let us know your opinions.

1. Cime de la Bonette-Restefond

Despite being one of the hardest climbs in France and probably the only one comparable to the Stelvio, Bonette has been included only four times in the TDF, last time in the Cuneo – Jausiers stage of Tour de France 2008. The climb pays the habitude of Tour de France of rarely visiting or doing crucial stages in the Southern Alpes. Last time it was climbed it didn’t gave bigger gaps between the peloton riders but in the previous one (1993, finish in Isola 2000) was a crucial part of the stage. The col has been recently climbed in the Giro d’Italia 2016 stage ending in Sant’Anna di Vinadio and it was the last time that we saw it in a Grand Tour. It offers excellent chances to do a stage like Laghi di Cancano picking one of the sides and pairing it with a climb after it: Pra Loup, Super Sauze, Auron or Isola 2000 are good finishes for a stage featuring the highest mountain pass of Europe.

Tour de France 2008, Cuneo – Jausiers

2. Puy de Dome

The Puy de Dome was one of the most iconic finish of Tour de France, featured 11 times between 1952 and 1988. The uniqueness of the climb was being out of both Alps and Pyrenees, starting from Clermont Ferrand and being in Massif Central, offering a chance of having a MTF closer to Paris (like in 1988 stage). There are unfortunately two things preventing Tour de France going back on a such iconic climb: the first is the monorail built alongside the road that prevent any circulation of emergency vehicles – the second is that the site has been inserted in the “Gran Site de France” lists, having as requirement to reduce the impact of human activities on the climb. Mountain has also been inserted for two years in the UNESCO World Heritage Sites and actual city councilors didn’t want to waste the work with UNESCO hosting a Tour de France finish on the top of the Puy de Dome. There are anyway some hopes and planning for a finish there in 2024.

Tour de France 1988, stage 19

3. Courchevel – Altiport

Courchevel was a finish visited three times between 1997 and 2005 and in each one of them stage have marked an iconical step in TDF history. In 1997 there was Pantani crisis sending him out of podium, in 2000 there was a duel between Pantani and Armstrong won by the Italian and in 2005 the first victory of Alejandro Valverde in the Tour de France in front of Armstrong himself. Courchevel was also featured as a finish in 2014 dauphiné where Talansky turned upside-down the GC stripping Contador the yellow jersey – but finish was not in the Altiport that hosted three times the Tour de France finish.

Courchevel in Tour de France 2000

4. La Plagne

Not so far distant from Courchevel, La Plagne was also featured four times in Tour de France, between 1984 and 2002. There is maybe some hope of having it back as it was featured in Tour de Dauphiné route this year in one of the two stages won by Mark Padun. The climb is long and hard – constatly on 7% average and is one of the classic Tour de France climbs with no extreme slopes but constant hardness. Fignon won twice on this MTF in 1984 and 1987, then Zulle and Boogerd.

Tour de France 2002, la Plagne

5. Superbagneres

Superbagneres has been featured in Pyreenes six times as a MTF, two of them as a climb time trial and one of them as the shortest Tour de France stage history: Bagneres-de-Luchon > Superbagneres of 19,6 Kms. Climb is not as hard as the previous ones, but it’s a good finish considering you can pair it with Peyresourde or Port de Bales. Last time it appears in TDF was in 1989 with Tourmalet, Aspin, Peyresourde before it, Robert Millar won the stage beating Delgado with Fignon taking the yellow jersey from Greg Lemond.

Tour de France 1989 – Stage 10

6. Guzet-Neige

Guzet-Neige ski station hosted three times a TDF finish between 1984 and 1995. The climb perfectly pairs with Pyrenees of Ariege region offering a steep finish that can be placed after Col de Latrape. Marco Pantani won on this climb in 1995 during the 5th Indurain Tour de France in a stage featuring Port de Lers and Col d’Agnes before ascending from Col de Latrape side. Stage of 1984 was instead a key day in Robert Millar’s career as it was sent in TDF as a domestique but winning the stage and being 4th in GC at the end of the TDF (best result for a british rider at that time – only Wiggins 2012 will beat it) and winning the KOM jersey pushed the team to give also him his chances.

Tour de France 1995 – Guzet Neige

7. La Ruchere

A forgotten climb of the TDF that was featured only once – and in an ITT of 20 km with a finish on this steep climb in Chartreuse. While Fignon won the stage, Delgado had the best climb time – having so the record. While it’s pointless having it as a single finish, this climb can be paired with several climbs in the zone, also forgotten, like Col du Coq. It’s unclear why it has never been featured again after that day.

Tour de France 1984 – Stage 16

8. Les Arcs

Being near la Plagne, les Arcs has been once a MTF in Tour de France, in 1996 with Luc Leblanc winning a stage with La Madeleine and Le Cormet de Roselend on the menu before the climb. The climb starts from Bourg Saint-Maurice and is near la Plagne, even if it’s a less harder than it. It’s an idel pair for a stage featuring Iseran from southern side or the Roselend but has never been used again in TDF despite its length (23,7 km)

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Tour de France 1996 – Stage 7

9. Les Deux Alpes

Despite being the finish of one of the most iconic days of Tour de France history, Les Deux Alpes was not used since 2002 and was only the 2nd time it was featured in TDF after 1998 stage. Surely the climb pays being nearby the iconic finish of Alpe d’Huez, often used by the department as a mountain top finish for Tour de France – but considering the descent of Alpe d’Huez being doable like in 2013 it can be an interesting solution for stimulating long-range attacks on the Alpe itself. Will it ever come back in the Grand Boucle?

Tour de France 1998 – Les Deux Alpes

10. Isola 2000 (Col de la Lombarde)

Closing as we open – Southern Alpes. Isola 2000 was the MTF of the iconic 1993 stage starting from Serre Chevalier where Indurain held on all the attacks of Rominger that had to recover more than 5 minutes after the time trial. After that day the climb was never featured again in TDF – it has been in Giro as Col de La Lombarde (going in Italy onto the top and then ending in Vinadio) and in 2008 stage of Jausiers from the other side. Climb it’s long enough for a finish and we saw Nibali destroying Chaves and the rest here in Giro 2016. It’s unclear why TDF continues to ignore southern alps.


Your time now: do you remember any of these climbs in TDF? Do you want to see them again? Do you think there may be other climbs being added to this list? Let us know in comments section.

Tour de France 2022 route review

After the Giro d’Italia 2022 review it’s time to review the Grand Boucle. As usual, like the Giro, and every other UCI race, you can find the stages on our website (and this is even more important than the Giro considering that for TDF all the profiles are out in end of May / beginning of June – so we have reconstructed them from the videos. There will be small changes of course, but not something that will change significantly the stages themselves). Let’s take a look, first, at the list of stages.

Overview

The Tour de France goes more or less over the skeleton of 2014 edition, the one won by Vincenzo Nibali and heavily influenced by the crashes of Alberto Contador and Chris Froome in the first day. All stages was set for a race between the two best riders of that moment – that was just delayed to Vuelta – but ended in Nibali domination for a boring Tour at the end. This brought that type of route to being put on hold for one year, being put back again in 2016, then being put again on hold after Froome dominated it.

TDF 2014 had cobbles, 5 mountain top finishes + Gerardmer and the final 54 kms ITT to define the winner. This race put on the table cobbles, 5 mountain top finishes + Chatel and Mende and a final 40 kms ITT putting a significant change in 2020 route when the MTFs were three and two of them were put in two short stages. It’s a race that unlike tradition of TDF of neverending boring stages in which group is all together try to shift the TDF in a different plan increasing the chances of stages with GC gaps.

Having GC gaps in TDF is something unusual more than Giro and Vuelta due to the high level of the competition. You always get riders grouped and big gaps like Pogacar this year in Le Grand Bornand are usually the exception and not the rule. Giro in last year is able to obtain them in the third week after long efforts making the riders being tired due to the level becoming high also there.

TDF usually never felt the need of doing an hard race after Giro having usually one stage (not even the hardest) as the main decider of the race and the rest just being in control of it. 2019 was a good edition countering the previous ones maybe due to lack of dominant riders resulting in gaps since Prat d’Albis stage – after one year in which Geraint Thomas was able to distance Dumoulin “only” 27” between La Rosiere, Alpe d’Huez, Portet and Mende with the dutch man losing the Tour on a crash in Mur de Bretagne and not being able to take the time back.

Will the choice pay? The last hard route that I remember was 2011 with 4 MTFs (a record for that time) resulting in a first part in which Pyrenees were basically ridden at slow pace because of Contador not being dominant and everyone else being scared of what’s coming. TDF is trying to put an hard route again on the table hoping that different style of racing of Pogacar and Roglic (and even Bernal) can bring something different on the table – stages like Andorra or Quillan are a problem in terms of TV viewers, so the more we get GC action the better for the race sponsors and stakeholders. And this is what this route is all about.

Grand Depart

The Grand Depart in Denmark finally makes it after 2021 and for the first time since 1987 the Tour de France it’s not starting on a Saturday. Last time was for a start in West Berlin that needed an extra rest day to move from West Berlin to Karlsruhe in a TDF of 25 stages + prologue starting on a Wednesday. After that TDFs had always prologue and 21/22 stages of which two of them often being held in the day after it as a normal stage + TTT in same day. The actual format of 21 stages + 2 rest day was there since 1999 and went untouched until now. TDF finally gets an ITT as stage 1 and this will help in the following days – ITT means gaps, gaps means that there won’t be the usual rush because someone may crash and I random rider can get yellow if I stay up making my day out of my career.

Crashes will surely be important in first week and unlike the other races we should here pay attention also to the size of the road – we saw last year Roglic being out in a stage with finals being ridden on narrow roads. Stage 2 is ridden all along the danish coast with the final being on a long bridge in an attempt to get some echelons and gaps like in Zeeland stage of TDF 2015 – the same, but with far less probability being in the mainland, for the Stage 3 that is likely to be a sprint. Rest day, race in France.

First week

7 / 6

There is an interesting thing we can notice in the first week draw: there aren’t any expected mass sprints. There can be one in Calais but surely won’t be a mass sprint with these climbs on the road (even if you should probably start the acton in the three climbs in the middle of the stage). The stage is classified “hilly” and won’t give full points in the shameful anti-sagan rule introduced in 2016. Honestly it’s time to put the rule back as it was in 2010s, with a better level of the green jersey points across the different type of stages and enjoy multiple riders having the chance to compete in it against the sprinters. Calais stage is the classic stage that would end in a breakaway in 2nd week – in the first week may not because of the yellow jersey battle.

Stage is then followed by the “cobbled day”, back in TDF after 2018 with entirely new cobbled sectors not done in the actual version Paris-Roubaix. There is only one sector classified with four stars according to our map and it’s Tilloy à Sars-en-Rosieres and it’s the sector in which Van der Poel made the attack that allowed him to drop the rest of the peloton going back on Colbrelli group. Stage is only 144 km and it’s on the paper easier than 2018 stage ending in Roubaix that didn’t do any significant gap. To be fair, after 2014, there were barely gaps between GC contenders in the cobble stages (every single one of them ridden in dry conditions). Mathieu Van der Poel can drop the peloton and go for the solo victory, Wout Van Aert also can but we’ll have to see first if he can ride freely or he’ll be bounded to Roglic babysitting like Sagan with Contador in 2015 cobbled stage. At GC level of course the best outcome for ASO is Roglic/Pogacar losing some time here, forcing them to attack in the mountains.

Longvy seems tailored on Alaphilippe. There is a decent length and a punchy final. It’s like having two classics in a row but being Stage 6 this seems designed for a good chance of a breakaway finish specially because 220 kms are a lot to chase for a single team. Stage 7 will feature the first MTF on la Super Planche des Belles filles. We know this climb by heart considering how many times we got that in the last years – the finish will be the same of 2019 and this means that the final wall is likely giving us 10-15” gaps between contenders neutralizing any attack before it. 2019 stage was also way harder than this one before the final climb. Lausanne will be again a MTF but for different type of riders – this is another stage that is likely having “breakaway” written all over it considering being between two hard stages.

Last one is the first mountain stage and it’s the only one being on a weekend. Pas de Morgins will act as a deciding climb for the day – there surely will be some attacks that should be done in the first part of the climb – the only problem here is the first part of the stage that could and should’ve been harder. Likely 8-12 riders here in the finish unless Pogacar goes thermonuclear immediately – we’ll see who will lose the tour.

Second week

8 / 6

Second week follows the trend of the first, but with mountains. Personally I am a bit disappointed for the opening stage in Megeve because the finish was the same of Dauphiné last stage of 2020 – and that was one of the best races of the year – but they’ll basically remove whatever there is before the final ascent to place this stage in the middle of the Tour de France high mountain stages. Considering the two upcoming days this is another stage with “breakaway” written all over it.

Race will then go with the Col du Granon and I am excited to see this climb back in TDF. Someone will probably have played the same final in one of my Pro Cycling Manager Fantasy Tour de France variants – and if you played it you’ll know that Granon is hard. 11 kms – costantly 9-10%. Would not instead reccomend attacks on Galibier but to use it, instead, to select the group – the descent is not so technical and a group vs a single person here can easily recover a gap if they cooperate properly: in 2017 Tour did the same descent with finish being in Serre Chevalier and Roglic lost easily 40 seconds vs the yellow jersey group (and in final the yellow group slowered down a bit due to the bonifications)

There is nothing to say on the Alpe d’Huez stage. It’s a classic. Stage is the same of 2008 except for the length, on that day the start was in Embrun for a total of 210 km that allowed Sastre to win the race gaining 2 minutes basically on everyone in the peloton also thanks to the Schleck brothers that being teammates had to stay on wheel despite Frank was in yellow (even with few seconds on Cadel Evans and an ITT coming). We’ll see gaps and we’ll know that everything before the Alpe is useless except pacing and making the rivals putting fatigue in their legs. Descents are long, you need to push, riders likely regrouping here. Hoping for some crowd control on the climb after 2018.

Saint-Etienne on the paper is a flat stage. And i mean on the paper because it can be a breakaway day or a restricted sprint day. The climbs are enough to drop most of the sprinters if properly paced giving WVA/MVDP a chance to go for the day. Final is the same of the stage Thomas De Gendt won – without the small climb in the park.

We know also everything about the Mende stage – puncheur stage, hard final, gaps likely to be happen. It’s a stage that being for GC riders usually goes to the breakaway with GC riders saving the watt for giving everything on these three steeps kms. Carcassonne is again a sprint on the paper but with several climbs in it it’s unlikely to be – the city hosts again a finish after the Cavendish record (and some criticism for the three turns before the mass sprint). Final is indeed hard than last year and even here there are chances of avoiding the mass sprint.

Third week

9 / 6

Third week fixes the main error of the last year and put finally out of the table the baby stages with two climbs. Foix brings back on the race the Mur de Peguere where due to the steepness something will happen even if the descent doesn’t favour riders on the move. Peyragudes stages features four climbs in 130 km, all short and fast with one technical descent on the Horquette. The big flaw of this stage like the Horquette is the final ramp of Peyragudes being steep (it’s the same of 2017) and not favouring the riders who will want to attack earlier in the climb.

Hautacam will so be the last day on the mountains – the “now or never” day in an unfortunately short stage but better than Luz Ardiden 2021 featuring Aubisque and Spandelles (you may also know this climb from one of the my Pro Cycling Manager TDF variants) before the final in Hautacam. Descent of Spandelles is also technical on a narrow road (unless resurfacing will happen before july) and the final climb of Hautacam done in third week has always delivered some good gaps.

Stage 19 can probably feature a mass sprint. I’d say probably because usually this stage has been given to the breakaway all the time with breakaway riders having their last chance before Paris and sprinters+teams wanting to save energies for the last day after having battled to survive in the mountains (TDF time limits are the most tight by far in comparison with Giro and Vuelta).

Stage 20 will be the usual, traditional, classic penultimate day ITT with punchy finish and proper stage distance. It’s the third year in a row that TDF decides to go back with the final ITT instead of a KOM. Wishing for one hour ITTs back in the game, we can be satisfied with what’s on the table. Nothing to say with Stage 21 that is the usual criterium on the Champs.

Overview

Tour de France 2021 – Global Elevation

The official website defines the route “a route for attackers“. This TDF seems in fact heavily designed for taking advantage of the dualism between Van Aert and Van der Poel bringing them rightly into the green jersey contention due to the lack of stages for pure sprinters. Van Aert could’ve easily won the green last year but he didn’t had the green light to go into sprints – in 2020 for domestique duties, in 2021 also being scared of getting injured for Olympics. While we can discuss if it’s fair for Van Aert to go also for his own ambition while helping the captain we cannot unsee how TDF designed a lot of stages in which top 10 gaps can happen likely every day.

ASO picked an experimental route following the “modern cycling” in which you prefer to having more gaps alongside the whole Grand Tour than the big day – will it pay? It didn’t in the last times they tried due to lot of conservative racing but they’ll hope things to change with the current peloton. Lack of the mountain stage over 200 kms remains, there are some proper climbs in the mountain stages unlike last year and the number of MTFs has been increased. The big difference in comparison to Giro remains in the middle mountain stages that are too easy to see any GC contention and the only ones that will feature GC gaps it’s because of a steep climb placed in final.

You won’t see here stages like Diamante – Potenza or Torino – Torino of Giro 2021 (the last one was Porrentruy 2012) and this is first due to lack of infrastructures in French territory, then due to organizers choices. In this sense some different choices for example could’ve been taken in Calais (Cassel in the final) and Saint-Etienne stages. A Team Time Trial would’ve been good on a route like that, first to set some times between Roglic and Pogacar and second to force some teams to take some good TTers instead of mountain superdomestiques making the roster choice more tactical.

As a cycling fanatic I’ll have to hope that the experiment will work and ASO will so be motivated to put other similar routes in the future – and that means a close GC battle and a lot of stages in which it happens. Stages like Nimes, Quillan and Andorra of TDF 2021 are good only for the riders who won it – less for the spectators, considering that last two happened also on a weekend. Target of ASO is trying to bring the first week racing of last year over three weeks and while the profiles of the Tour de France are not necessarily as difficult as the Giro d’italia – the intensity of competition still makes it the hardest grand tour in terms of average level and level required to win stages. Up to the riders now riding like if there is no tomorrow every day and hoping ASO plan to not backfire again.

Giro d’Italia 2022 route review

Giro d’Italia route reveal – for the first time in five steps – ended today and we can finally see what the riders are supposed to face in may. While, as usual, you can find all the interactive maps on our website – let’s take a look of what RCS Sport decided to put on the table for the first Grand Tour of the season.

Overview

Giro 2022 fix one of the greater mistakes of the 2021 edition – having an excessively backloaded route: in 2021 there was only one high mountain stage in first 13, the Rocca di Cambio one, won by Bernal and in which few seconds were given in the GC gaps between the main contenders. This led to a first part of giro ridden very conservative for the GC riders before the mountain stages with breakaway making always it to the finish line in non-flat stages making the race a bit boring before Cortina (with exception of Montalcino stage). 2022 route introduces two Mountain Top Finishes, Etna and Blockhaus with proper length and hardness in comparison to the ones we were used to in last two year. Route continues to be backloaded following the format of previous years of having a third week relatively more hard than the rest but there are now chances to test riders also before the decisive week.

With a general overview Giro keeps it’s identity of a “true bike race” compared to the Tour de France “kermesse”. The pink race organizers decided to put again a proper hard route for climbers, following the current cycling historical moment of inserting more hard stages with small gaps possibly happening anywhere rather than having the “d-day” in which you can gain minutes and turn the GC completely upside down. This is something that will recurr in this Giro route as if we see each one of the stages, especially in the mountains, we’ll find out that each stage it’s hard but could’ve been drawn outstanding the rest: there is a flaw in each one of the mountain stage drawn by RCS even if they can be considered hard enough taking them alone.

A plus are instead the medium mountain stages day: these are someting that Tour de France always missed out in last years despite Stage 20 of Vuelta, Stage 5 of Tirreno, Stage 7 of Pais Vasco set a clear trend during last season: a stage all up and down made it uncontrollable on the road can make serious damages for the GC – giro tried to put some traps of this type on the route – but let’s see it in the details.

(A small thing you should take into account while looking at profiles: the first sprint is likely to be the sprint for ciclamino points, while the second is likely going to be the bonification sprint, giving 3-2-1 seconds for GC).

Grand Depart

First three stages doesn’t say too much, seems the classic Grand Depart with some small-gaps-stages without saying too much for the GC. Visegrad could’ve been harder (and that was the intention of the local organizers) but ended still being a GC day from the start – a crash or a bad positioning will cost you time. The “prologue ITT” – because that’s the length – being put as stage 2 will feature an interesting outcome: GC riders will start all in the final and won’t be sparse during the day as if it was in Stage 1 having anomalies like in Bologna with all GC in first part. Battle for the first “maglia rosa” not given straight to Ganna in Day 1 with the ITT makes the first finish interesting because it’s usually something you see in TDF Stage 1, not Giro.

First week

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The best realization of first week not being like the last years as in the Stage 4 the riders will already face the Etna. The side (last 14 km) it’s the same used in 2011 when Contador won the stage on Rujano and Garzelli setting a first milestone in his second Giro victory. The climb as usual has the characteristics of not being too hard but being long and with 6-7% regular slopes all the time (more like a TDF climb than a Giro one). Being the top of a volcano with nothing around in the area wind will be the key to see gaps. In any case this will be indeed the classic day in which we won’t know who’ll win the giro, but who will not win it filtering the GC.

After two sprint stages there is the first “trap stage” of Giro with the finish in Potenza. This is a 198 km day that has more positive denivel than Alpe d’Huez TDF 2022 stage, so surely a day to be taken into account. Monte Scuro is far from the finish line, it’s only the first week but can definitely be a climb to set traps and broke the peloton in groups putting some rivals out of GC if you are brave enough to make it a GC day: it’s a 6 Km climb, almost 10% average – no flat until finish. A Vuelta Stage 20 scenario here is unlikely to happen and this stage would’ve been good as Stage 20 but this can be a good day to try, especially if you lost time in Etna.

Stage 8 is the first surprise of the day with Giro this year going with two circuit stages, one in Napoli and one in Torino. In the italian press this stage was rumored to end on Monte di Procida to celebrate Procida as Italian Culture Capital for 2022 but at the end will end in Napoli. It will be indeed a breakaway day as the circuit is too soft for the GC but enough to take out the sprinters. While Monte di Procida could’ve deliver and hardest race day as finish, the 39 km from the KOM to Napoli will indeed be good to see the breakaway battle for the stage.

An high mountain stage with a demanding mountain top finish is so scheduled for the second sunday of the race with Passo Lanciano followed by Blockhaus. There is a bit of disappointment here for the hardest side of Passo Lanciano/Blockhaus being… the one they’ll do in the descent (that at this point will also be a technical one). Finish is the same of Giro 2017 stage 9 when Quintana won appearing without any doubt the strongest rider on mountains in that Giro. Unfortunately for him, there were also ITTs, but that’s another edition. It will anyway be indeed a big GC day with not small gaps like last year (14 riders in 12”) but entire riders being already out of GC contention: in 2017 the 10th rider was over 2 minute, there was not Passo Lanciano before and stage was only 148 km long.

Second week

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The first disappointment of the Giro opens up as soon as you see the opening of the second week. After 2021 Tirreno and the news of a “Muri” stage in the Marche region, I would’ve expected something else – instead what is proposed it’s not a “Muri” stage that can compete with the “Sterrato” stage of last year but a stage in which the climbs taken are much softer. Length can be a factor here (194 km) but not expecting any battle. The stage is followed by the classic trademark of the latest Giro edition – the big “Piattone” (long flat stage) in Emilia Romagna. It worked so much in last years having rider not even wanting to go in breakaway because there were no KOM points on stack and limited prizes that peloton last time took a nap and went regular pace before Pellaud attack. So why not doing it again? I mean, just do a little detour and insert at least one easy climb, come on Giro!

Genova stage is another good day for GC. Race will be back on Passo del Bocco descent for the first time after Wouter Weylandt tragedy. Race will then follow some steep climbs before the Monte Becco that is a 10 km @ 7% climb – have no idea about the descent here. Expecting some GC action here considering the following day it’s a sprint. Worth mention for stage 13 that will face Colle di Nava from the opposite side of Sanremo 2020. The climb it’s a true climb: it’s 11 km @ 6.2%. If resistent sprinters would like to make some selections the day can be interesting here as it’s also the penultimate chance for them (even if they’ll have to chase/lead for 100 kms).

Torino stage is amazing. It’s a 153 Km up-and-down circuit all the day. This can be a chaos stage all around. Bric del Duca (that’s it’s basically Superga climb) will be one of the key moment of the day. The problem of this stage is one only: riders can hold back something as there will be a mountain day following. Cogne stage it’s different compared to the usual ones because the Mountain Top Finish it’s an easy one. It’s a stage designed for long-range attacks with a rest day following and a mid-climb harder than the final one like Verrogne. While i think this it’s a good stage for the “there is no tomorrow” day, in the second weekend with two other mountains stages following after the rest day it may be a breakaway day.

Third week

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Giro d’Italia 2022 made me excited when I saw that intentions was to put back Mortirolo in the route. Except…. we got Aliexpress Mortirolo. Monno side is not even comparable to the Mazzo di Valtellina one. Sure, Santa Cristina back in the route it’s a good thing, Grosio descent is technical (see 2012 stage won by De Gendt for references), Teglio is steeper but Giro lost a big chance here to re-propose one of the most epic finals – the Merano-Aprica 1994 one with Crocedomini (also here from the easier side) instead of the Stelvio. This is the main problem of this giro – there are a lot of hard stages but none of them is above the other as a decisive day: this would’ve been a good candidate as the one. Final is indeed hard and this stage also being after the rest day will surely define the GC but having Mortirolo used in this way with Aprica wanting to host a MTF it’s a slap in the face of Giro d’Italia history.

Lavarone stage featured an uphill start with Tonale then a long up and down to Pergine Valsugana before re-introducing a climb that was mostly featured in Giro del Trentino: the “Passo del Vetriolo”. Both climbs of this stages are hard and with a sprint in the next day no doubt that there will be attacks. Considering Aprica the day before, this is a day in which you can send your rival into crisis.

Will go fast on sprint stage featuring Muro di Cà del Poggio again in giro. Even here it’s another chance to drop some pure sprinters, better than the Cuneo stage, as it’s only 50 km to the line. The last friday it’s a trip to Slovenia where there is a stage classified as medium mountain but that would be high mountain if this was TDF. Kolovrat climb is 10 Km at 9.1%, so it’s indeed steep even if it’s 43 km to go. It’s unlikely that considering what’s coming next there will be attacks, but who knows.

Stage 20 is the big disappointment of this Giro. It’s not about the baby-length for being the decisive stage but it’s about the climb disposition. Fedaia is steep – so it’s working better as penultimate climb. If you want to end on Fedaia, it’s fine, but here again we had a precedent set in 2008 of a good (and short) stage. Don’t know if someone will try to go “all-in” on Pordoi with such a steep finish and for being a stage 20 the risk is to end up anti-climatic and everyone waiting last 6 kms to try to attack and win the giro. It’s steep enough to have big gaps if you go full gas.

The final ITT in Verona is more or less the same route of 2019 with Torricelle. Will be significant only according to GC gaps and set a trend of a really low amount of KMs in Giro. Giro went back to origins in ITT Kms after having good editions with the 1h ITT in the middle setting the gaps for the mountains.

Conclusions

Giro d’Italia 2022 – Global Elevation

Giro 2022 continues to follow a dangerous thread in the stage races, reducing ITT Kms and preferring quantity over quality. It will be indeed a good giro to follow on TV (unless it rains? Standards shall improve definitively in comparison with last year). Stages taken out of the whole route context have good intentions but lacks a bit of balancing in the overall context. Resistance won’t be tested on a single stage day (maybe in Aprica) but on the whole three weeks like in 2016 edition won by Nibali with the sicilian able to make gaps in two short but hard stages.

It’s also comprehensible on the other hand after what happens in the last years RCS not wanting to have the risk of the queen stage being altered by snow or rain or rider protests and with this route surely an alteration will have a minor impact on the global outcome. Hoping in athletes doing all the route this time the giro suits indeed the climbers over the all-round riders, fixing some of the flaws of 2021 edition but not entirely doing a route in pure “Giro” style spreading the difficult across more stages in comparison with the past.

See you in may for the hardest race in the world’s beautiful place.

Tour de France 2021 – My ideas about the upcoming race

I am honestly excited about TDF 2021 battle. For the first time we have not a clear favourite – or better, we have, it’s Pogacar – but team balanced the individual skills. Pogacar on the top 3 has the weakest team – can be easily isolated and unlike the last year won’t be dragged for free around France. He is still owerpowered compared to the rest and in a normal route he would probably be the favourite. But this isn’t a normal route.

This tour present a correct amount of ITT KMs but lacks about an hard mountain stage. And this is why, for example, Thomas is the INEOS leader. Thomas isn’t as strong as Carapaz in mountain (and of course is not better than Roglic and Pogacar), isn’t as fast as Roglic in ITTs.

INEOS has indeed the better team, but they don’t have the better rider. They have to play how they are not used to do in TDF: tactical superiority. About that, i will take into account Porte or Carapaz – probably the 2nd over the first. In a situation in which Carapaz has more than 1 minute, he can come back in GC counterattacking after INEOS had isolated the peloton and rest of captains are one by one. Similar with how he won Giro with Movistar. If INEOS take the train tactic, instead, they are unlikely to win and we’ll get a boring TDF. We have then Roglic and Jumbo-Visma. Where did Roglic lose the last TDF? In the ITT. Why he lost it? Because he rely on a tiny gap. Pogacar did a super ITT, but you should take care into account that you can have a mechanical, or a bad day, and try to increase the gap where you can. Roglic could’ve increased twice: on Glieres stage, where Pogacar suffered and he stopped and on Loze, pacing hard before the climb when Bahrain stopped. He was better than Pogacar on that day, he didn’t. For sure Roglic learnt the lesson – he didn’t race before TDF to avoid to have troubles of keeping form for 3 weeks (remember he suffered in last Vuelta too) and if he have legs, he’ll surely attack.

Another error of Jumbo-Visma in 2020 was to not keep a 2nd rider in GC. Dumoulin was out of contention in Peyresourde. Could’ve helped them a lot in stages like Glieres in which everyone was isolated while they got 3-4 riders. Send him to the move, let the other chase. With this route, I’d try to keep WVA in the GC the more I can. Could help a lot, specially in covering INEOS.

Pogacar, then. Pogacar in this TDF has only to hope to get the jersey the more late he can. He don’t have the riders to decimate INEOS when attacking, even if he’s the strongest. With this route, he can make the difference on Portet and Ventoux stages – my only concern on Ventoux is that descent is 0 technical, so you have to gain a lot of time. 10-15” gaps are likely to be closed. You have then to see how he performs in hot temperatures – he suffered in NCs ITT last week.

All the above can get simply get void by stages 1 and 2. It’s TDF, there are two uphill finishes with no 3 Kms rule. One crash and you are out, like Dumoulin in 2018 at Mur de Bretagne. And first stages are the one with most crashes as everyone wants to be in front and take the yellow – EVERYONE. Take 2 minutes for a crash and you have already lost the tour.

Possibile outsider: Alaphilippe. He is here for GC. Zero doubts. Route suits him in his limits, suited more Evenepoel or Almeida, but they are not here. Alaphilippe will skip olympics so he’ll probably be focused on tdf. In 2019 his problem was the third week (and the resistance over 21 days). Now we’ll discover if he worked on it.

Green jersey: can’t see someone beating Sagan. Maybe only Demare, but Demare won’t take points in First two stages. Ewan can win it if he goes for intermediates, but in the past he didn’t. Van der poel Is not going to finish the tour, Van Aert would be a contender and the favourite but only if he will be allowed to attack and go into breakaway in mountains to take the IS points, like Sagan can and will do.

KOM Battle: two options here according to peloton attitude. Kom battle will be played on big climbs, namely Ventoux 2nd passage, Portet and Luz Ardiden. These climbs will give 40 to 1st, other HC will give 20, 1st cat 10. The stage to win it is Le Grand Bornand that has four 1st category and in this final race always ended with a breakaway reaching finish since I have memory.

So, that’s all for this my personal ideas of TDF 2021. Who will be your winner? My guess is INEOS taking it, but not with Thomas.

Rai plane broadcasting drama and possible differences with France TV

Hello everyone? How did you spent your Giro rest day? We spent it talking about TV broadcasting after yesterday’s Giro stage.

Many topic will be touched in this small piece on Reddit, but for who isn’t new on how a cycling race is produced for live TV a small recap: there are camera motos, there are camera helicopters, there are radio helicopters and radio plane. Camera motos and camera helicopters send their signal to radio helicopters and radio plane, that flew above the race. These two send signal to the van at the finish line that is cabled and handles the broadcast.

This fleet is redundant. In raining conditions, for example, there are no camera helicopters and radio helicopters. Signal is sent directly to radio plane. Or at least this is what happened yesterday in MercanTour or in Tour de Romandie Stage 5. In Giro instead we didn’t have a plane because it was not given the permission to take off from Venice airport, in which the plane landed after Sunday stage. We’ll come back later for this.

Mercantour TV broadcasting condition, worse than Giau yesterday

What we know is that Rai is using a different airplane that the one of France TV. Going on Flightradar, for example, we can see here the model used in Montalcino stage, that is used for Giro and all the italian races. It was used in Milano-Sanremo, Tirreno-Adriatico, Tour of The Alps this year

Giro d’Italian plane in Montalcino: Piper PA-31T Cheyenne 2

France TV plane (we’ll call it in this way, even if we’ll see is it used for other TV) is a different model. We’ll keep out Tour de France TV production on this post because they actually uses three planes. We’ll compare Giro with other France TV production that uses one plane only – like, for example, the Mercantour.

Mercantour TV plane: Beerch 200 Super King Air

The first INTERESTING stuff we found on flightradar, is that this plane seems to be the standard for TV productions out of italy. The same plane F-HFRF (so not only the model, but vehicle, was used for the broadcast of the infamous Stage 4 of Tour de Romandie 2021 – and it stayed above all the area until Woods crossed the line.

Tour de Romandie 2021 Stage 4 is the same plane.

The same plane seems to be used by ASO for their races. On Flightradar with a premium subscription, you can access the flight plan and you can see, for example, that was used in the recent Tour du Hongrie

F-HFRF flight plan

With great suprise, we checked also some planes used in other races. Itzulia 2021 seems to use also a Beech B200C Super King Air, not the same of ASO

Itzulia 2021 plane

Same model of plane, but different aircraft, was used this year also in Ronde Van Vlaanderen

Ronde Van Vlaanderen 2021 plane

To conclude the saga, the “optimum”. Tour de France. Three planes used, two of them are Beech B200 Super King Air, one is Piper PA-31-350 (same used in Giro)

Tour de France 2020 production

At this point, I was lucky to know a person that is currently finishing his engineering studies in Italy and spent 2 year and his bachelor degree thesis on Air Simulators (dreaming also to became a pilot) and how these stuff works. I spent some times with him this morning, asking to clarify some questions about how Mercantour and Romandie were able to get production live, while stage (also Giau) wasn’t.

First step: helicopters. It’s possible to have anti-ice helicopters but according to him if there is strong fog or it’s rain, it’s not reccomandable to take-off. These are mainly used for medic stuff and emergencies, not for TV production. All the new helicopters has de-icing system according to him. An option we considered is that France TV has helicopters with de-icing system and RAI has outdated one, but didn’t makes sense considering that Mercantour didn’t use them, so we dismissed the hypotesis of helicopters not having that system. Seems simply caution.

Second step: airplane models. Piper first flight was in 1969, Super King first flight was in 1972. According to him they are very similarThese planes are base model for civil aviation that the TV buys. The first thing he went to check also with flightradar, was the elevation in which they could fly. Both planes flight at same elevation, 35.000ft according to their base model technical specifications. This put on the table some options like civil aviation different rules or different technology of moto.

About the different technology, we put the hypotesis immediately off the table, simply because in a stage like yesterday the plane didn’t even attempt to take off because was not authorized to – according to RAI. Every time the signal dropped on Giro, Stages 4, 8 and 16 for now, was because plane wasn’t on the race.

The question in the discussion moved on another point: was the plane able to go for an instrument flight over the Giau? The answer he gave me it was absolutely yes. Both planes (France TV and RAI) flew at 25.000ft when recording – so at that altitude you are able to flew only with an instrument flight and not with a visual flight.

But in Giau stage the plane wasn’t able to take off. Was because of the weather near the starting airport? Of course not, because civilian planes started in the same hours as it’s possible to see in the timetable of Venice airport of yesterday.

In our discussion so something doesn’t seem right because even if Rai model seems outdated, the instrumentation seemed similar. So it could’ve took off, and he could’ve flew over the area, even if later than the original plan. Technically if take off was the problem from Venice, it could’ve happened from a non Italian airport, avoiding Italian Civil flight laws for the take off. Why didn’t happen?

We went back in our discussion to Sestola. In Sestola the plane coverage dropped suddenly because started to rain and we were told by RAI journalists that the plane was called back from the control for the risk of the ice that can form in motors.

We went back checking both models agains according to the technical specifications. Both models has de-icing system and he found the possible problem: if plane doesn’t have electric injection, ice can obstruct carburetor, and I don’t think this model has this type of injection, being a turboprop.

So, Rai plane indeed can’t flight (and is asked to land when it’s raining at low temperatures) because it doesn’t have electric injection. It’s over? No.

France TV plane base model doesn’t have electric injection too. But it stays up. So, from now, what follows is speculation.

It’s absolutely possible that France TV plane got upgraded compared to the base model (we had technical details available for the base model, but every aircraft can be upgraded and changing the injection type is definitely possible according to him). We can’t say that, because we have only the infos on the general model – of course – and not on the single aircrafts.

The main hypotesis on the table are so these two

  1. France TV airplane having been upgraded since the 70s with an electric injection, avoiding ice problems forming in the carburetor, so able to stay upright and film without problems, while RAI airplane hasn’t.
  2. Stricter civil laws / order from italian civil aviation compared to the rest of the world. Accorging to him, this is also a chance because many of them are outdated and excessively precautious with nowadays technology.

So if the question is: could’ve France TV plane flew over Giau yesterday? The answer is “maybe“. We are missing a piece of information here – and that information is the key: if RAI upgraded too its airplane with an electric injection, so being able to flew on that area without risking ice in the motor. In this case it’s indeed the different between italian civil aviation laws and the rest.

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